Chronic Pain Video

228 – John Gasienica – A Revolutionary Approach to Disrupting Chronic Pain With Pain…

When I say “it’s all connected,” I’m not pushing a love ‘n light colloquialism; I preach the gaddang truth! That cranky back you woke up with this AM? That IBS that took you down during a meeting? That nagging knee injury that kept you from your run? It’s ALL connected to the way we treat ourselves.

Those messages are often tied to big “T” or little “t” traumas that we haven’t correctly processed, leading to miscommunication between head and knee (or back or gut), says John Gasienica, a therapist and the Director of Development at the Pain Psychology Center in Los Angeles. Listen in to mind-blowing revelations about pain and the life-changing therapy called pain reprocessing within the confines of this conversation between John, Anne, and me––truth bombs that just might change the way you approach the mind-body connection and your relationship with the physical vessel you inhabit.

GUEST BIO John Gasienica, MSW, is a therapist and the Director of Development at the Pain Psychology Center in Los Angeles where he works with the founder of Pain Reprocessing Therapy (PRT), @alantgordon, to help people with chronic pain and anxiety. John is also currently a research clinician studying the efficacy of PRT in racially/ethnically diverse adults with the University of Colorado Anschutz School of Medicine.

Are you a therapist stepping into leadership for the first time?

Or maybe you’ve been in a leadership position for a while, but are bumping up against new struggles?

Our Authentic Leadership Group is here to help you become the authentic and wholehearted leader you aspire to be. And we believe this journey is best undertaken with the guidance of experienced mentors alongside fellow learners.

February – September 2024

Monthly morning sessions on Fridays

Join Sarah in this journey of self-discovery and leadership mastery, where you’ll enhance your leadership skills and forge meaningful connections with fellow therapists who are committed to their own growth and the betterment of the therapy field.

Join the group now at


Conversations With a Wounded Healer Merch

Join our Patreon for gifts & perks

Shop our store and support local booksellers

Share a rating & review on Apple Podcasts

Get 2 Free Months of Marco Polo Plus


Let’s be friends! You can find us in the following places…

Sarah’s Website:


Instagram: @headheartbiztherapy

Anne’s Website:

Instagram: @spareroomwellness

NEW: Our page!

NEW: Check out our cute new merch items!